ACC Football Championship scenarios
It’s hard to remember when it’s been this tight in the ACC or any conference for that matter with just two weeks remaining.
Here are the possible scenarios for the ACC championship, not including ridiculous three and four team tiebreakers that I outlined here.
Edit… Update following the Thursday night Miami v. Georgia Tech game.
Edit… Update following Saturday Nov. 22 games (FSU-Maryland, Virginia Tech-Duke, Clemson-Virginia, Boston College-Wake Forest)
Atlantic Division
Maryland - Beat Florida State and Boston College and they’re in the Conference championship.
Florida State - Beat Maryland, Wake Forest has to lose to Boston College, Boston College has to lose to Maryland.
Wake Forest - Beat Boston College, Maryland has to lose to Florida State and Boston College.
Boston College - Beat Wake Forest and Maryland and they’re in.
Coastal Division
Miami - Beat Georgia Tech and NC State and they’re in the Conference championship
Georgia Tech - Beat Miami and they’re in. *EDIT* Upon further review, since the Jackets three losses are to UNC, Virginia and Va Tech, they need all three teams to lose once more.
North Carolina - Beat NC State and Duke, Virginia and Virginia Tech have to lose once, also Miami OR Georgia Tech have to lose once.
Virginia Tech - Beat Duke and Virginia, Miami lose to Georgia Tech and NC State
Virginia - Beat Clemson and Virginia Tech, Miami lose to Georgia Tech and NC State
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I don’t think you got the Coastal Division right. I spent a few minutes working out the scenarios this morning looking at the three-or-more-team tiebreakers, and I think Georgia Tech is the longest shot to win the division. For GT to be in, they have to beat Miami, plus UNC, UVA, and Virginia Tech ALL have to lose at least one more game. And to make matters worse for GT, NC State is still on the schedule for one of those teams and Duke is on the schedule for two of them.
If Georgia Tech beats Miami but those other things don’t happen, there’s a chance for up to a 4-way tie for the division. The only tiebreaker GT can win is a 2-way tie between itself and Miami.
I think the way it actually works is this. Let’s say GT beats Miami and the other teams at the top of the division win the rest of their conference games. UVA and Virginia Tech play each other at the end of the season so one of them will be out of the picture. This leaves us with potentially 4 teams with 4-3 records (GT, Miami, UNC, and the UVA-Virginia Tech winner). If that 4th team is UVA, then the division standings will end up UVA, UNC, GT, Miami. If that 4th team is Virginia Tech, then the division standings will end up Virginia Tech, UNC, GT, Miami.
To put it in sports lingo, Miami controls its own destiny. Win its last two games and win the division. If Miami loses to GT though, then UVA and Virginia Tech control their own destiny, with the winner of the UVA-Virginia Tech rivalry game going to the ACC Championship game.
Of course, as complicated as this all is there’s a non-zero chance that I screwed something up. =)
You’re right, I knew that seemed to good to be true for the Jackets. I’ll edit the post.
Georgia Tech need to beat Miami, then have UNC lose once, as well as Virginia and Virginia Tech (who play each other to make matters more complicated) lose once more.
Did I mention I hate this conference?
It also appears that if I calculated correctly, Virginia Tech will go if either: GT beats Miami or NC State beats Miami and UNC wins their last 2 games.
Both scenarios create 3 team ties that VT wins when going to 2nd tiebreaker (division record 4-1). VT also win in a 4 team tie with GT, MIA, UNC & VT, as head-to-head record drops MIA & GT (1-2) and VT beat UNC.
UNC needs Virginia to lose to Clemson and then beat Virginia Tech and Miami needs to lose to GA Tech tonight. I think this scenario puts UNC in Tampa???? Oh yeah they have to beat NC State and Duke.
Now what happens, gt beat up on miami, unc and uva lost. So that leaves miami, gt, and va tech, all with potential 5-3 records at the end of the season. Gt beat miami and lost to va tech, va tech beat gt but lost to miami, and miami beat va tech and lost to gt. That is a 3-way tie, with all 3 of the teams 1-1 against each other. What do you look at next, overall record? If that is the case miami also lost to florida, and va tech lost to east carolina, if gt beats uga next week, does that mean they are in?, If they lose, what do they look at home record, or record within the coastal division only? This is very confusing!
Here’s the info from the ACC website
Three (or More) Team Tie
(Once tie has been reduced to two teams, the two-team tiebreaker format is used)
1. Combined head-to-head record among the tied teams
2. Records of the tied teams within the division.
3. Head-to-head competition vs. the team within the division with the best overall (divisional or conference) record, and proceeding through the division. Multiple ties within the division will be broken first to last.
4. Overall record for non-divisional teams.
5. Combined record versus all common non-divisional teams.
6. Record versus common non-divisional with the best overall Conference (divisional) and non-divisional record and proceeding through the other common non-divisional teams based on their order of finish within the division.
7. The tied team with the highest ranking in the Bowl Championship Series Standings following the conclusion of regular season games shall be the divisional representative in the ACC Championship Game, unless the second of the tied teams is ranked within five-or-fewer places of the highest ranked tied team. In this case, the head-to-head results of the top two ranked tied teams shall determine the representative in the ACC Championship Game.
8. The representative shall be chosen by a draw.
and the 2 team tiebreaker…
Two-Team Tie
1. Head-to-head competition between the two tied teams
2. Records of the tied teams within the division.
3. Head-to-head competition versus the team within the division with the best overall record.(divisional) Conference record and proceeding though the division. Multiple ties within the division broken from first to last.
4. Overall record versus all common non-divisional opponents.
5. Combined record vs. all non-divisional teams.
6. Record versus common non-divisional teams based on their order of finish (divisional and non-divisional) and proceeding through other common non-divisional teams based on their order of finish within their division.
7. The tied team with the highest ranking in the Bowl Championship Series Standings following the end of regular season games shall be the divisional representative in the ACC Championship Game.
8. The representative shall be chosen by a draw.
so it looks like the key tiebreaker is #3 from the 3-way system.. and if you can figure out what that means.. let us know!
It looks like in the event of a GT, VT, Miami tie at 5-3 then the results against NC will be the deciding factor? and that would put VT in the title game if they win out…